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Detachment: Scorpio vs Aquarius
August 10th, 2009 by taurusrising.net received 11 Comments »I will be the first to admit that I have my flaws, quirks, and shortcomings. I’m far from perfect and I know this. So, when I got into a fight (okay, it was more like World War 3) with my SO (significant other), I was able to admit to all of my flaws… as well as nitpick one thing that he did that I did not like.
Background chart story: I’m a Pisces with a Libra moon and Taurus ascendant. Those are some pretty relaxed and lazy signs. I’d even say “go with the flow”, but Taurus gets a little stubborn. My sun sign is on the cusp of Aquarius/Pisces (one degree Pisces). I also have Mercury and Venus in Aquarius. A few houses and signs down, I have three planets located in Scorpio. I have Mars, Pluto, and Saturn in Scorpio. I have a Mars and Saturn conjunction with a two degree orb (this is the distance between the planets). Pluto is about ten degrees away from these planets. Scorpio is the natural ruler of Mars and Pluto. Alright, where am I going with this? That’s a lot of Scorpio influence and intensity.
I have to admit, that Scorpio isn’t my favorite sign. Especially the negative aspects. It’s something that I’ve always denied in my chart, because the negatives are pretty ugly! However, it is also my Scorpio is my descendant. Descendants are defined as the traits in ourselves that we deny and then project into others. Descendants fall in the cusp of the 7th house, the house of relationships. So, whatever your descendant is, that is what you project onto relationships with others.
Back to the planetary stuff, I read somewhere that when there are three or more planets in one sign, it creates a stellium (thank you @astrogrrl!). Stelliums can be a powerful influence, especially when in the same house or when the planets are in conjunction. In my case, I have Mars (passion, what drives you) and Saturn (limitations) conjunct in the 7th house (relationships) and Pluto (underworld, transformation, rebirth) in the 6th house (health, daily routine, work).
The sign Aquarius is known for its stereotype of being detached. I recognize this as having a short attention span, jumping from topic to topic, arguing for the sake of arguing (even if it’s something I don’t believe in), and falling in and out of love on a whim.
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Okay, back to the original story. My SO and I got into a fight. I won’t say any specific details, but he did something that I did not like. He held back some information in order to “protect me” and I stumbled across this information and boy, did it infuriate me. I had funny feelings about it before, but I brushed it aside, and decided not to confront the issue as I should have. So, that is one of my faults, I tend to run away from conflicts (Libra moon!) because I don’t want to know the full story- especially when I think it has a bad result. I should have said something from the beginning.
Well, I didn’t. This issue came up somehow in conversation, and the missing parts were accidently dropped. Woops. The scorpion in me flared up. An important thing to note, the stereotypical Scorpio- they do not like lies! Scorpios do not like hidden information. Scorpios do not like to pry around for the details. Being upfront and honest is the sure way to win a Scorpio’s heart. But, if that swings the other way: withholding information, lying, telling half-truths, it is not pretty. This is especially true, coming from somebody with Mars in Scorpio.
Mars – the god of War! Add in the Scorpio flare and bam! You get a very powerful, highly motivated, passionately driven person. Sounds cool, right? Absolutely. Wait ’til you piss them off. Let me tell you, we fight to win. It can be a very painful battle, especially for those on the other end (sorry).
Okay, jumping off track. While I was in my battle suit, I found myself absolutely detached emotionally. As a Pisces gal, I tend to cry very easily. I’m a sap, I weep over movies like The Lion King… and recently, I found myself sobbing over the movie, Cars. You get the idea. I put on my suit of Scorpio armor, and instantly became detached. And cold. Basically, I became a bitch. I attacked and attacked because I felt violated. My heart was crushed, but you wouldn’t have been able to tell that. I was so cold. Sarcastic (the mean kind!). Volatile. Poker face. I think I looked unaffected, because my SO said that I didn’t even seem to have any emotion.
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So, was this detachment an influence of Aquarius or Scorpio? While my Aquarian influence has me fluttering from topic to topic, or person to person, I think that this detachment stems from the intensity of Scorpio.
Do you have a strong Scorpio or strong Aquarius influences in your chart? What do you think about the detachments in these signs?
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(P.S. In case you were wondering, me and my Leo made up. I put up the white flag :)
Tags: Aquarius, AstroMondays, Detachment, Scorpio, Stellium
Posted under: Astrology
I don't like Scorpio at all
You say they don't like half truths, but half truths are may be all we know from them
I believe in being equals…
Detachment: I think Scorpio can play the bastard/ b***h better than Aquarius, who just wants to rebel, but not necessarily being a b****
I admit, I wasn't a big fan of Scorpio, either – at least in the beginning. Since I've gotten into astrology and learned more about the sign – I've come to appreciate it a little more. I still don't like the vagueness that I've come to know with some of the Scorpios I've encountered.
I'm a Cappy with a Pisces moon and Scorpio stellium which included both Mars and Venus in Scorpio. What you said below describes me to a "T"….
"I attacked because I felt violated….heart was crushed, but you wouldn’t have been able to tell that. I was so cold…..Poker face….SO said that I didn’t even seem to have any emotion."
I can look at and THROUGH that person who hurt me in the same glance and make it obvious by my presence alone that I am removed from them. I have been told by various people on the receiving end of my cold shoulder that there is nothing colder.
I have attributed this to Scorpio. And as not just a deserving consequence, but really, as a self-protective mechanism. Scorpio for me has been a double edged sword, one side magnifies intensity, depth and passion, the flip side of that being pain is much deeper and more profound. So I have to remove myself to some extent to deal with it.
I not only shut that person out, but I retreat within to restore myself and possibly to establish healthier boundaries so I am not hurt again. Self-preservation I feel is the inner motive. Atleast for me.
Wow, I'm glad that I'm not the only one (along with the other commenters!) that feels the same way about Scorpio stelliums. I agree that it's self-preservation and a defense mechanism. I feel the same way about retreating to restore… because after a while, I will "get over it", but I admit, it's very hard for me to let go of things.
By the way, thank you for commenting on my post! I don't get a lot of comments, so it's nice to see some new faces around here. :)
I would not know about aquarians but I know for sure that a real scorpio is detached. as bnmotion mentioned, scorpios will become so cold not because that is a mask but because that is what they really feel. they are so afraid of being hurt and being left alone. they are jealous of their loved ones and they will feel ditched most of the time by the actions of them. they just cannot take all this so they need to become detached. they have high social energy but they will not use it for social occasions because they are afraid to get hurt again. probably that is why they are prone to have sex -they will need to release their social energy.
I am a scorpio sun, moon,mercury, venus,pluto :) with taurus rising and mars in libra. I am very detached and even though I did not want to admit it I have seen for myself that I cannot communicate with people the way it should be. Later, I tried to communicate just as all people are doing and I felt really really bored and not right. So I gave it up again. I will just sit and listen when people are talking if I am there. I just do not have any will to speak in occasions. However, in small groups I am so attached. I can easily be discovered and I will have much fun with my small group of friends only to become detached again once we leave each other. HOwever.. I am very protective of those I love – I would die for them and would never even care if they cannot give anything in return. If I trust them and if i have a reason for myself to protect them, I will. And it will be my purpose of life. I am kind of a samurai, really hehe ^_^
Wow, five planets in Scorpio! That's a lot of intensity. :) I love that you're also a Taurus rising ~ do you feel that gives you the mask of being grounded with your emotions?
Also, thank you for commenting! I love to see new posters on here!
I just found out I'm a rare feelings oriented Aquarius so I don't think the detachment thing could apply to me ever. I'm a sap too, I will cry anytime I feel someone has deliberately hurt my feelings. If it's a stranger I wont' care and what they say won't even phaze me. Maybe thats where the detachement comes in?
Although!!
Push my buttons to that limit that no one should ever push them too and I fly off the handle and my words become daggers. Many a times I'm talking to my Gemmy that I'm dating and he tries to ruffle my feathers because he loves to see me get angry. it's cute to him I guess :-| and I have to be careful with my mouth because 9 times out of 10 what I say to him will be cruel and cold and def insure his sensitive nature that he tries to hide so well from me. I let him win because I know he's playing with me when he kids with me….where as I won't be kidding.
I always tell ppl. Don't pick a fight with me because I get downright nasty and fight dirty with words.
If I'm remembering correctly, you have Venus in Pisces right? I think that aspect influences you to be more emotional than your average Aquarian. Wearing your heart on your sleeve! :)
I have to take a look at your chart, I forgot what other planets you have, other than your Aquarian stellium!
The Aquarius detachment, I think, is more like the ability to be unbiased when in a debate.
Or my Venus in Aquarius influence, I tend to flutter from friend to friend depending on my mood. It's sort of like, being unable to get close to somebody… For example, when somebody asks me something personal about my life (I have trust issues!), I'll flutter onto someone else until they try to get close to me.
Yeah, I think Aquarians are more detached in general than Scorpios… Scorpios seem to "detached" when they are fuming, but like you said, they're soaking up everything to use later.
I always associated Aquarius with detachment more often (if ever) than I have with Scorpio. I think that Scorpio is deceiving in that sense because oftentimes they might seem like they're aloof, when in reality they're soaking up every morsel for later use. I know this one well with my man's excess Scorpio. I feel bad oftentimes when people don't understand him, because deep down he's just as emotionally attached (if not more) than any other water sign.